tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9650614.post6096652502445017640..comments2024-01-10T18:34:38.739-08:00Comments on Modern Mythology: True Blood: Dionysus, the MaenadAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04721839742206290258noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9650614.post-81550926633492025372010-09-30T17:47:09.194-07:002010-09-30T17:47:09.194-07:00i love methology myself and i own the first and se...i love methology myself and i own the first and second season's of true blood so i did some research and came across this website<br /><br />http://www.chacha.com/question/was-dionysus-ever-called-the-horned-oneheylovelyvamphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02668899656984027587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9650614.post-61624222661939600792009-09-19T08:28:41.933-07:002009-09-19T08:28:41.933-07:00A-
First off, I agree with your assessment about...A- <br /><br />First off, I agree with your assessment about the theme of the season. <br /><br />>you seem to reproach the producers of the show that these myths hadn't been revived and remodeled on the modern world<br /><br />Hm, that wasn't my point or intention at all. I think that they borrowed from what was useful in terms of the story they were trying to create-- which is, imo, as it should be. I was pointing out a couple differences but that isn't a disparagement. <br /><br />You also have to realize most of these were dashed off during lunch break (my day job up till friday was web design.) So you're right, I didn't include references etc. However, I didn't say they didn't involve the bloody sacrifice, that's a central part of the Dionysian myth. What I said was "I've seen little in original sources about the need of a blood sacrifice to sate some urge <i>in and of itself</i>;". The 'sources' I was referring to were simply the most common Dionysus myths, (I can come up with a quick list if you like), Euripides' The Bacchae, etc. You don't need to dig too deep for that. My point there is that in True Blood the sacrifice is given "for" Dionysus to make him appear. I've never seen it presented in the myths themselves as a gift for him so much as a result of his presence. <br /><br />In any event, I'm very much a supporter in borrowing from older stories, traditions, myths, but reworking or rewriting however matches the intention of the present work. In one way or another that's what I've done with the majority of the work I've done the past decade (novels, albums, etc). <br /><br />Hope that answers your questions somewhat?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721839742206290258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9650614.post-9354932662118744452009-09-19T03:19:15.070-07:002009-09-19T03:19:15.070-07:00ATTENTION SPOILER
if you haven't seen the whol...<b>ATTENTION SPOILER</b><br /><i>if you haven't seen the whole of True Blood's 2nd season, and plan to, I'd strongly advise you not to read my post</i><br /><br />Well actually I think the whole second season is basically two clever twists around the concept of cults and <b>how much free will are you willing to give up to feel a part of something bigger</b>.<br /><br />The two cults that are central to the 2nd season's plot are two sides of the same coin : the dangers of letting go of your critical mind for the sake of 'belonging to a family'. <br /><br />See yourself as a moral, ethical, god-fearing, vampire-hater? The fellowship of the sun is for you.<br />Or rather, you've built up so much tension, not giving into some of your more natural needs, and now you can't face them anymore, so some kind of magical persona uses these pulsions against you, to free you from the brick wall of your morality and use you? You don't mind blacking out and partial amnesia? Maryann Forrester might already be on to you.<br /><br /><b>Either cults turn you into something your not</b>. Not because of the Christian God or of Dionysus, but <b>because of the people between the adepts and their god : because of the ORGANIZED RELIGION</b>. <i>Both cults turn to the past as a solution and a reference.</i><br /><br />James, you seem to reproach the producers of the show that these myths hadn't been revived and remodeled on the modern world, but I think that's precisely the whole point of this second season : showing the danger of turning to the past as a radical solution to your present problems, and to build a mainframe to solve your present and future issues inside of it.<br /><br />Actually I'd like to ask you a question. I think you mentioned in your article that your sources (original sources) on the Dionysian cult didn't involve sacrifice. From what I've gathered on my part, I've heard the Bacchante were pretty violent and bloodthirsty, and at some point in the Roman Empire people plainly avoided the streets whenever a Bacchic ceremony was involved, for fear of being torn into shreds or strampled upon by drunk and high and dangerously sexually aroused girls! I was wondering if you could share with me what your sources were (transcription of direct, historical observation?)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16531483676762325896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9650614.post-40596497913579296912009-09-16T08:17:54.049-07:002009-09-16T08:17:54.049-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721839742206290258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9650614.post-14104425473250910282009-09-16T08:17:20.248-07:002009-09-16T08:17:20.248-07:00Vern-
Science and myth aren't at odds, anymor...Vern-<br /><br />Science and myth aren't at odds, anymore than a protractor and paintbrush are at "odds"- they're both tools that we use to understand our experience, which yield vastly different results. Belief has very little to do with it. This is one of those "so simple it's complicated" issues, especially since human history is riddled with misunderstandings of this. Logic doesn't own the market on reality.<br /><br />If you have the time and inclination see http://fallennation.mythosmedia.net/content/immanenceofmyth_earlysample.pdfAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721839742206290258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9650614.post-11377207161850641612009-09-16T00:06:56.165-07:002009-09-16T00:06:56.165-07:00myths fascinates me but i am not a firm believer b...myths fascinates me but i am not a firm believer being a student of science i need logic behind every thing. but however i was looking to <a href="http://trueblood.edogo.com/" rel="nofollow">download True Blood</a> and i found your blog it was interesting and i would like to share a conversation on this with u if u like toUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14170391942001972967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9650614.post-17100491301342545622009-08-25T22:08:17.516-07:002009-08-25T22:08:17.516-07:00They are pretty central to aesthetics. In fact (as...They are pretty central to aesthetics. In fact (as I say), IMO any artist or author should be fairly versed in western & eastern philosophy & myth. Even when not used directly, it can inform a lot.<br /><br />Check out http://www.jamescurcio.net if you want a kind of core sample of the work I've done. Hope to hear from you again.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721839742206290258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9650614.post-31513550112216230302009-08-25T16:18:27.958-07:002009-08-25T16:18:27.958-07:00Love your blog, just found it when I started searc...Love your blog, just found it when I started searching for Dionysus + True Blood. Myths really used to fascinate me when I was little, and now I study aesthetics, and myths are quite central there, so it's nice to learn more and put use to old knowledge.<br /><br /><br />I will continue following your work.Daesy Kowaisyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05622156248888401073noreply@blogger.com